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seabird kajak

Berichtdoor supersmurf » 06 jan 2012 22:01

seabird kajak,
Ik heb al verschillende dingen over het merk seabird gelezen
heeft er al iemand mee proefgevaren ?
en wat vind je van de boot
ik heb er nog niet mee gevaren maar alles zit er op en aan 3 dekluiken een skeg en roer.
en dan de prijs 8)
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Berichtdoor Jan » 07 jan 2012 18:18

Met de North Sea en de Qanik van Sea Bird Designs heb ik eind 2011 een proefvaart gemaakt. Beide varen prima. De Qanik heeft de instap zittend via het achterdek. Daarom heb ik voor de North Sea gekozen.
Sea Bird Designs is een opkomend merk en schijnt in Noorwegen al meest verkocht te zijn. Materialen zijn prima, ervaren ontwerper en volgens mij is de produktie goed in orde zonder kinderziektes. Sea Bird is niet de enige met de produktie in China, maar misschien wel uniek dat ze het prijsvoordeel doorgeven aan de koper.
Het ingebouwde reddingssysteem met de buis achter de kuip van de Sea Birds is voor mij een plus geweest ivm solovaren, alleen nog niet in de praktijk getest. (Eigenlijk ook ideaal in combinatie met zeil, alleen ben ik die truc nog niet tegengekomen.) Het is inderdaad een complete kajak. Ik wil enkel nog een elastiek voor bij de kuip toevoegen, dat is al compleet voorbereid aan dek.
De afmetingen van de luiken zijn, ondanks het logo, standaard afmetingen.
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seabird kajak

Berichtdoor supersmurf » 07 jan 2012 22:31

Als in februari Arjan bloem weer geopend is hoop ik een nieuwe eigenaar te worden was vorig jaar al wezen kijken en vond de boot erg geweldig.
alleen van dat reddings systeem achter de kuip wist ik niks van?
wat voor systeem is dat?
en hoe werkt het?
het viel mij idd op dat er aan het voordek geen dek lijnen zaten maar als de voorbereidingen er al op zitten moet het niet zo moeilijk zijn om er dek lijnen op te bevestigen.
ik kan niet wachten tot ik er wat tochtjes mee kan gaan maken.
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Berichtdoor bjorri » 08 jan 2012 02:26

Dat reddingssysteem kan ik me niet herinneren maar mogelijk is de truuk dat je een deelbare peddel aan de zijkant van je boot kunt bevestigen, daarmee kan je slapen in je boot en inderdaad wat eenvoudiger er weer in klimmen. (edit: een echte re-entry leren is nog veel veiliger, als je omvalt is het meestal geen rustig water en dan heeft dat extra beetje steun van een halve peddel ook niet zo veel meerwaarde)

De ontwerpen van Björn Thomasson (Seabird) zijn inderdaad wel goed maar de uitvoering en afwerking had ik na het zien van de eerste partij toch wel twijfels over, mogelijk hebben ze daarna een kwaliteitsslag gedaan in China en is het nu wel goed maar die eerste partij was alleen maar leuk vanwege de prijs.

Volgens mij zitten er gewoon deklijnen op, mogelijk geen elastieken. Hou er rekening mee dat je zonder deklijnen of zonder toggles geweigerd kan worden bij zeetochten van vh NKB en Peddelpraat. (met reden).
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Berichtdoor Freek » 08 jan 2012 12:46

Ik weet niet over welk model van Seabird we het hier hebben ?
De qaniq heb ik ook mee proef gevaren; op zich prima, maar er zat een vervelende hoge rand aan de voorzijde van de stoel. Maar een stoel is natuurlijk wel vervangbaar.

Hier nog een review van de (eerste serie) Seabird Black Pearl;
http://www.aardvanholland.com/SEABIRD%2 ... PEARL.html
Wel de nodige mankementen dus, maar voor de lage prijs, denk ik toch een leuke prijs/kwaliteits verhouding.
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seabird kajak

Berichtdoor supersmurf » 09 jan 2012 22:00

Bij Arjan bloem had ik de seabird discovery gezien,
een kajak van 4.20 meter lang.
ik ben niet van plan om echt op de zee te gaan varen,
maar meer in de biesbosch en wat groteren kanaalen.
zal deze kajak daar geschikt voor zijn?
of kan ik dan beter voor de Victory 525 HV of de Expedition 480 LV gaan ?
waar staat eigelijk de hv of lv voor?
misschien voor jullie domme vragen maar ik ben nog niet zo lang met het kajakken bezig.
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Berichtdoor Freek » 09 jan 2012 22:23

HV is high volume en LV is low volume.
dus veel of weinig (bagage) ruimte.

verder kun je als ruwe vuistregel nemen. een korte kajak is stabiel, langzaam maar wendbaar en een lange is snel maar niet zo wendbaar. en zal voor een beginner wat wankeler aanvoelen.
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